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2020 decision

Posted by ChrisArmin - July 20th, 2019

WARNING: This question concerns my NSFW animations. Please skip it, if you're not interested!

Heya!

Money is going to look bad for me in 2020 and I need to find a solution.

Without telling you what I'd choose, please participate in the poll below:

http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=5d32e761e4b02fae1ddac68b

1) charge more for commissions: I'm really underselling my animations and would need to raise the base price for

them significantly (right now it's 240$ and I'd need to raise it above 300$). If done right, a loop with some minor

alterations usually takes two weeks with over 120 work hours.

Less people would be able to afford it, but you'd get what you really want to see.

2) start a patreon: I noticed that a lot of people want not only loops, but transitions and sequences.

Patreon could provide the money necessary for me to do those properly and turn them into 'scenes' or maybe even short films with sound.

I'd collect suggestions, make 4 sketches for the best ones and then let you vote on them.

Thank you for your time. I'll leave the poll up until the end of August and then add the results to this post

or in a reply.

-Chris (CASch)

EDIT:

364 total votes

85% Patreon

15% higher commission prices

Thanks for all the votes and nice comments :3

Patreon obviously took the lead, but there's still quite some people that would like their own stuff commissioned.

I would have gone for comms - I like doing them, but it's really not a good source of income (especially for animations), so It's most likely going to be Patreon in the beginning of 2020 if nothing else comes around. Also commission prices will be slightly increased.

Thanks again and see you with an update on that next year!

7th March EDIT:

Commission prices are slightly increased. Still no Patreon, but I'm working on promotional material when I find time.

I started a twitter, for people that want more info on what I'm working on: https://twitter.com/caschcomm

Cheers,

-Chris

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Remi-le-Oduen 2019-07-20 08:03:52

Well I think you can use both approaches with a wide-range patreon ranks.

OrangeWedge 2019-07-20 09:13:12

Talent has to be rewarded, so I understand raising the prices.

BombsAhoy 2019-07-20 13:39:29

Honestly, I think you should raise the prices of your commissions whether you start a patreon or not. Anybody who would complain about them being too expensive would just have to be told to look elsewhere. Too many artists undersell themselves and I don't think you should be one of them.

ChrisArmin 2019-07-20 13:39:29

Thanks for your input. Yeah, I was thinking of raising them at least slightly.

Mumbel 2019-07-20 17:02:26

Your basically saying that you currently work at an 2$/h rate, which is RIDICULOUSLY low, people shouldn't be mad even if you made it 5 times as high.
Maybe you should start making comisssions for lower quality loops (that maybe only take 50 hours or something along the lines) and sell it for the price of current loops and make the current quality for 480$ or something.
I personally know artist with MUCH less talent than you that have succsefully sold 180 hour works for over 1200$.
But then i don't really know how the market looks online, if there is someone else selling decent quality loops for 180$, you obviously can't go to high, but if thats the case the whole community should rethink their pricings tbh.

ChrisArmin 2019-07-20 17:02:26

Thanks for your input. That's pretty much it - I could give up some quality too, but something in me just won't allow it, lol.

CaminanteNocturno 2019-07-20 21:01:06

Even though I agree with the people here telling you that buyers should value your talent and pay for it, I think it's rather naive... Most probably by raising your prices too much you'll lose customers and maybe even make less money than now. A Patreon sounds like a solid idea, you gather a steady amount of money flow, solidify your fanbase and can still work on commissions as you do now. You may raise your prices a little too, but don't overdo it because it will bite you back, in my opinion. Of course, I don't really know who you sell your work to and that's a huge point to take into account.

ChrisArmin 2019-07-20 21:01:06

It's mostly private people and raising the prices too high might be problematic - you're right. Thank you for the feedback!

Million00 2019-07-21 02:14:49

I would recommend at LEAST getting a patreon set up. people might not bite at increased prices but the patreon is a bit more stable and you can do things like post works in progress.

cyan01 2019-07-21 19:52:47

so you only get $2 per hour when working on commissions?? Definitely raise the prices on that!
I'm sure you'd get plenty of backers on patreon too

FischPlayerHD 2019-08-07 18:14:38

Why not both?

ChrisArmin 2019-08-07 18:14:38

hmm.. if Patreon ends up taking all of my time, commissions might turn into a thing of the past.

SpazStrike 2020-01-30 00:40:13

So? Have you decided?

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